Are JEWS a RACE?I took a Jewish history classes at Carnegie Mellon University. I received a "C" for arguing this with a professor about this one issue, even though I did all my work creatively and efficiently. The professor was even a friend of my grandmothers (because of this I won’t use her name). She was wrong and she should not of graded me accordingly. Jewish history can be looked at from many different perspectives and it is unfortunate that CMU used this woman as a tool. It is not surprising to see Palestinian slants coming from Humanity and Arts departments at CMU these days. My teacher and other Jews like her set the precedent for future intolerance by refusing to budge on issues coming out of the Holocaust. The goal of the Jewish people as is the Christian people is a worldwide Zion. The juxtaposition of how this Zion occurs is a matter of contention, but both faiths believe in the accession of a greater global government called Israel. The people who started this movement were called Jews. They are in fact closely related to each other and are debatably a "RACE". Christians maintain that this government will come with the acceptance of they’re leader, and therefor Christians are a part of this same Zion. Jews believe that they’re future leader will come and some like myself believe that the scripture is misleading and that while there will be key leaders, that this Zion will come through the actions of people and the details of the messiah will be unknown till it is known and obvious. Regardless of the slant on Zion, the end conclusion of Zionism is a belief in key people who are of close genetic relation and the people’s they friend. Converts of Judaism become not only part of a philosophy, but part of the physical "People" in that the hope is that they’re blood will mingle into a Jewish gene pool. It is also part of Christian theology... a concept of the Christian people and Republic, with the Juxtaposition that Israel will become part of this Christian Zionist Republic. This is not Fascism, nor is it bigotry. The very reason both cultures have a process of conversion is to keep the people from being elitist and therefor racist. The State of Israel is not the final Zion. The modern state of Israel is a defense to keep the people alive to embrace the coming evolution. It is in fact a necessary compromise, because the next evolution of Israel will be global. It is very possible that the people of Israel might might be destroyed and the people executed and that a new genetic group with the same philosophy could rise from the ashes and become the new Israel. (however I feel like I am making some kind of Hollywood movie when I talk like this)
Racism itself is a term that developed recently. Race generally concerns the color of a person’s skin. It is a silly term. The Jewish concept of RACE is a more beautiful embrace of difference then the silly dynamic of BLACK, WHITE, BROWN, RED, YELLOW, in that the Jewish concept of RACE is inclusive. That is not to say there aren’t some horrible exceptions to this and perhaps that is why ZION has not arrived yet. My best friend is a Yemenite Jew. He looks like the people of KUSH culture. His skin is dark and I would have no issue mingling so to speak genetically with some of his beautiful dark skinned relatives. I would have no issue with any of my family having dark skinned children, and in fact I do have dark skinned relatives on my mother’s side.
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twitteratti are horrible... it’s like anywhere else....
IRONICALLY THIS HAPPENED ON MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY!
Nazis expect every JEW to be a philosopher...
lucky for me I am well read and educated... I actually gave an intelligent answer... but the simple fact of the matter is if someone insists on knowing if JEWS are a religion or a culture/religion... it is neither and it is both.
It can be one thing for one person and another for another.
language insists on declaring JEWS as not a RACE because of Hitler... but that is incorrect, because the vast majority of us are related.... or as related as say BLACK people are who mix as well.... point being is that RACE is a human construct, designed to help us deal with generalities that are real. That doesn’t always mean we can define things uniformly.
JEWS are a RACE and also not a RACE...
but for this angry dude that answer was unacceptable.
intolerance comes from not being able to objectify people. Intolerance comes from finding something out of a classification that one is used to. This guy with all his arrogance was a classic BIGOT. I am amazed the people on TWITTER let this happen. Like a line in the sand as in UN 242, classifying is designed to help, but it is not a classification that is beyond exception. I understand how frustrating it can be for people to not have things uniform and convenient, but human relations and also language evolves and defies this kind of determined bias.
People like things to stay the same... but they don’t. The classification of what we consider to be BLACK or WHITE, Jew or Gentile will evolve. Most of what we have dealt with over the last century is a reflection of HITLER’s convenient classification of an enemy, but that does not mean that most JEWS are not genetically related to each other. To call some one a RACIST for hating JEWS is fair game... and that classification can change as well.
the TWITTER conversation is here for your analysis
http://simonstudiotheatre.blogspot.com/2008/04/mlk-day-pests.html
Are JEWS a RACE? What is your slant on this?
Topics: politics, judaism, israel, christianity, race, hitler, racism, jew, gentile, prejudice, obama, jimmy carter
Asked by SimonStudio on April 06, 2008
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andrewbadera @noahdavidsimon morning, how goes? about 19 hours ago from web in reply to noahdavidsimonnoahdavidsimon http://tinyurl.com/2wshsk Christopher Hitchens on Withdrawal from Iraqabout 19 hours ago from web
noahdavidsimon I ain't missionary position... but I am a juxtaposition against what is the status quo tyranny here on TWITTER about 19 hours ago from twitterrific
noahdavidsimon @Br3ndaBot I ain't missionary position... but I am a juxtaposition against what is the status quo tyranny here on TWITTER about 19 hours ago from web in reply to Br3ndaBot
Br3ndaBot @noahdavidsimon: I am glad to hear that you are not missionary position. And.about 19 hours ago from Perl Net::Twitter in reply to noahdavidsimon
noahdavidsimon I'm not that boring @Br3ndaBot Politics bore me, but when Stalinists here on TWITTER got excited about OBAMA, I spoke my mind. about 19 hours ago from web
noahdavidsimon @Br3ndaBot keep in mind I'm an artist first. but if you tell me that Wright has talking points like @queenofspain ? It's fighting time about 19 hours ago from web in reply to Br3ndaBot
noahdavidsimon @Br3ndaBot have me pegged as some kind of Right Wing? Nothing could b further from the truth. I'm a concerned artist. Nothing more about 19 hours ago from web in reply to Br3ndaBot
Br3ndaBot @noahdavidsimon: Your face is a concerned. I've never thought about it. Really nothing? You are a concerned artist? about 19 hours ago from Perl Net::Twitter in reply to noahdavidsimon
noahdavidsimon @Br3ndaBot people telling me nothing wrong with Jimmy Carter's racism against Jews?Democratic party has lost all American credibility. about 19 hours ago from webin reply to Br3ndaBot
noahdavidsimon @Br3ndaBot apparently Jimmy Carter will be 1 of6 Super-Super Delegates2decide this primary.How can this man's sanity b even taken seriously? about 19 hours ago from web in reply to Br3ndaBot
noahdavidsimon http://www-ai.ijs.si/eliza/... @Br3ndaBot have you met my good friend Eliza? You should get to know her better about 19 hours ago from web
noahdavidsimon @Br3ndaBot if you are a person, you could save a lot of energy and just use eliza in a script on twitter. it's a shame to waste a human about 18 hours ago from web in reply to Br3ndaBot
alindsey3 @noahdavidsimon: Obama is just a dummy who speaks well, so it's easy for him to lead the vastness of dummies who cannot speak well.
noahdavidsimon @andrewbadera morning. I was dealing with a pest about 18 hours ago from web in reply to andrewbadera
andrewbadera @noahdavidsimon but @br3ndabot is like one of those inflatable plastic clowns .. no matter how much you knock it down, it pops right back up about 18 hours ago from web in reply to noahdavidsimon
markdavidson @noahdavidsimon Jews aren't a race. http://twitter.com/noahdavi... about 18 hours ago from web in reply to noahdavidsimon
noahdavidsimon @markdavidson ho hum. Semiotics so early in the morning. Go read Roland Barthes and then get back to me. about 18 hours ago from web in reply to markdavidson
markdavidson @noahdavidsimon Appeal to authority? C'mon. That's lame. Ethnicity, religion, culture, heritage, nationality... not race. about 18 hours ago from web in reply to noahdavidsimon
noahdavidsimon @markdavidson I can't have an argument with you over definitions without a framework. sorry if it is above your head. laterz about 18 hours ago from web in reply to markdavidson
markdavidson @noahdavidsimon Ad hominem. Care to make it a trifecta of defective thinking?about 18 hours ago from web in reply to noahdavidsimon
noahdavidsimon @markdavidson oooh Latin? did Ron Paul teach you that? about 18 hours ago from web in reply to markdavidson
markdavidson @noahdavidsimon Red herring. Why don't you stop trying to change the subject from my argument to me personally? about 18 hours ago from web in reply to noahdavidsimon
noahdavidsimon en nomine Ron Paul @markdavidson about 18 hours ago from web
markdavidson @noahdavidsimon Jews are not a race. True or false? Why don't we start there.about 18 hours ago from web in reply to noahdavidsimon
noahdavidsimon @markdavidson it isn't my topic this morning. and it is a loaded conversation that can't be proven either way. Rather silly of you about 18 hours ago from webin reply to markdavidson
markdavidson @noahdavidsimon It's not a loaded question. I did not deploy complex question. Rather than attack me personally, attack my argument. about 18 hours ago from web in reply to noahdavidsimon
noahdavidsimon @markdavidson come now about 18 hours ago from web in reply to markdavidson
markdavidson @noahdavidsimon The only people I know of who refer to Jews as a race are... Take a guess. about 18 hours ago from web in reply to noahdavidsimon
noahdavidsimon @markdavidson look N2 Cartesian Mind Body Exploration instead of damanding others see terms exactly as U want them want2. about 18 hours ago from web in reply to markdavidson
markdavidson @noahdavidsimon So, are you going to answer my question or are you going to try and change the subject to some politician again? about 18 hours ago from web in reply to noahdavidsimon
noahdavidsimon @markdavidson I can't debate without a dialogue. your demands are n your head. yer definitions R how you want 2C them. about 18 hours ago from web in reply to markdavidson
markdavidson @noahdavidsimon Once again you are trying to change the subject away from my argument and back onto me personally. about 18 hours ago from webin reply to noahdavidsimonnoahdavidsimon @markdavidson RU looking 2 shame me based on the juxtapositions n dynamics of TWITTERS racist OBAMA cultural BLUE STATE code? about 18 hours ago from web in reply to markdavidson
markdavidson @noahdavidsimon How perceive things has nothing to do with the truth or falsity of what I wrote. Are Jews a race. Yes or no? about 18 hours ago from web in reply to noahdavidsimonnoahdavidsimon @markdavidson who said anything about race? I said racism. racism can exist without race. your case is moot about 18 hours ago from web in reply to markdavidson
markdavidson @noahdavidsimon Again, you are changing the subject away from my argument and back onto me personally. Are Jews a race? Yes or no? about 18 hours ago from web in reply to noahdavidsimon
noahdavidsimon what is good for the goose is good for the gander. if u don't want 2 be attacked, don't attack me about 18 hours ago from web
markdavidson @noahdavidsimon Again, a red herring argument. Try to follow me here. What I wrote, is it true or is it false? about 18 hours ago from web in reply to noahdavidsimon
noahdavidsimon @markdavidson no doubt if there were no race, human fallibility would invent it. You can create yer racist terms any way U want 2draw them about 18 hours ago from web in reply to markdavidson
markdavidson @noahdavidsimon You just deployed a circular argument. Try again. My question was simple. Are Jews a race, yes or no? about 18 hours ago from web in reply to noahdavidsimon
noahdavidsimon @markdavidson your a race about 18 hours ago from web in reply to markdavidson
markdavidson @noahdavidsimon You keep changing the subject. Your argument is based on distraction. How about answering the question? about 17 hours ago from web in reply to noahdavidsimon
noahdavidsimon @markdavidson GOTCHA question.It is wrong 2elaborate on either side of the argument.RACE s a human standard for dissection and objectivity. about 18 hours ago from web in reply to markdavidson
markdavidson @noahdavidsimon You just deployed a tu quoque argument. Please try answering the question. Are Jews a race, yes or no? about 17 hours ago from web in reply to noahdavidsimon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque
Tu quoque (Latin for "You, too" or "You, also") is a Latin term used to mean an accusation ofhypocrisy. The argument states that a certain position is false or wrong and/or should be disregarded because its proponent fails to act consistently in accordance with that position; it attempts to show that a criticism or objection applies equally to the person making it. It can be considered an ad hominem argument, since it focuses on the opposite party itself, rather than its positions. [1]
noahdavidsimon @markdavidson RACE is relative. and being that it is coming from your mouth it is relative to an asshole about 18 hours ago from web in reply to markdavidson
markdavidson @noahdavidsimon You just deployed an ad hominem argument. Please try answering the question. Are Jews a race, yes or no? about 17 hours ago from web in reply to noahdavidsimon
noahdavidsimon @markdavidson Relative to defending Jewish dignity, Jimmy Carter is a RACIST and so are you about 18 hours ago from web in reply to markdavidson
markdavidson @noahdavidsimon http://twitter.com/noahdavi... about 17 hours ago from webin reply to noahdavidsimon
noahdavidsimon @markdavidson your the one who is demanding control of the subject. I have bent to your will already. I have addressed your issue. about 18 hours ago from web in reply to markdavidson
markdavidson @noahdavidsimon Changing the subject is a form of distraction in debate. Whether I am racist or an asshole is irrelevant to my argument. about 17 hours ago from web in reply to noahdavidsimon
noahdavidsimon @markdavidson your terms are racist. I will not address them about 18 hours ago from web in reply to markdavidson
markdavidson @noahdavidsimon Now, if you are done talking about me, maybe you can get back to my argument. Are Jews a race, yes or no? about 17 hours ago from web in reply to noahdavidsimon
noahdavidsimon @markdavidson I addressed your racism already.http://twitter.com/noahdavi... about 18 hours ago from web in reply to markdavidson
markdavidson @noahdavidsimon Are Jews a race, yes or no? http://twitter.com/noahdavi...about 17 hours ago from web in reply to noahdavidsimon
noahdavidsimon @markdavidson I addressed your racism already. Relative 2defending Jewish dignity, Jimmy Carter s RACIST n so are you http://xrl.us/biv76 about 18 hours agofrom web in reply to markdavidson
markdavidson @noahdavidsimon When people make comments like yours it undermines and dilutes legitimate racial, cultural, and religious struggles. about 17 hours ago from web in reply to noahdavidsimon
noahdavidsimon @markdavidson another personal attack? this s over. yer blocked. bigotry s a human invention. righteously we can then attack them as such. about 18 hours ago from webin reply to markdavidson
markdavidson @noahdavidsimon You are still trying to change the topic away from my argument and onto me personally. Are Jews a race, yes or no? about 17 hours ago from web in reply to noahdavidsimon
noahdavidsimon @tindle I would argue with Martin Hiedegger, but he couldn't get past seeing things in his own language. Sad. about 18 hours ago from web in reply to tindle
markdavidson @noahdavidsimon I blocked you about 6 pages back. I'm sure if you had a rational argument, you would have made one. http://urltea.com/333k about 17 hours ago from web in reply to noahdavidsimon
noahdavidsimon @tindle took almost 20 tweets 4 him 2kind of acknowledge that racism was a human axiom, then he switched 2 arbitrary perspective arguments about 18 hours agofrom web in reply to tindle
markdavidson @noahdavidsimon BTW, Jimmy Carter is not "racist" against Jews. He's not even anti-semitic. Please enjoy the rest of your morning. about 17 hours ago from web in reply to noahdavidsimon
tindle I feel a campaign coming on... lol about 18 hours ago from webnoahdavidsimon @tindle boring and academic. about 18 hours ago from web in reply to tindle
noahdavidsimon @tindle unfortunately a good juicy debate takes cooperation. he was just butting heads. what was with the male erotica on his pic? about 18 hours ago from web in reply to tindle
noahdavidsimon @tindle somebody give me any money n I will make a profit out of anything. reputation is where the money is.I can sell a postmodern argument about 18 hours ago from web in reply to tindle
LaTtEX @noahdavidsimon: As much as I want to, I could not understand the context by which you have been arguing with people about racism about 18 hours ago from im in reply to noahdavidsimon
noahdavidsimon @LaTtEX check the tweets, racism is not a math. It is relative to human constructs. Therefor Jimmy Carter s a RACIST n proportion2dignity about 17 hours ago from web in reply to LaTtEX
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